Which way to the future? The economics of sufficiency or more recycling and EVs?

We can't consume our way out of the climate crisis. Photo courtesy The Kaka.

This week I chatted with journalists Bernard Hickey and Cathrine Dyer about the economics of sufficiency on The Kaka. We covered a lot of ground, including why recycling and buying an electric car won't quite cut if we want to curb combat climate change, the limits of the renewable energy transition, and the idea of putting sufficiency ahead of GDP growth as the central policy goal for our economy.

Listen to and read more about the conversation here.